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A
continual question that we are always faced with is
What
wine do I serve with ...
This topic could and has filled volumes of books.
Instead of going into the effects of fat, acid, sugar, etc. on
a wine and how to pair them based on these factors, we decided
to simply develop a repository for those combinations that our
readers have found enjoyable.
As with other areas on our site .. we count on
you, our readers, to help us expand these combinations so that
others might enjoy them. Please drop us an
email with
you wine/food combinations that you've found enjoyable ...
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Cheese ... Beef ... Seafood ... Lamb ... Pork.
Fowl ... Pasta ... Salads/Veggies ... Desserts ... Misc |
| Food |
Wine |
| Seafood |
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| Seared Monk fish with Farmers Market olives
and various cheeses (goat and gorgonzola) |
Patricia S ... 1998
Riesling-Kabinett
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| Asparagus wrpped in Smoked Salmon on a
bed of Scrambled Eggs |
alt.food.wine (
Tony P.) ... Sauvignon Blanc
(Cloudy Bay, Palliser Estate, Isabel Estate or Geyser Peak)
Art & Betsy ... a
really nice Riesling
alt.food.wine (
Arno W.) ... Ludovico
Antinori's wonderful sauvignon: Poggio delle Gazze
alt.food.wine ...
You might consider a Sancerre, which will be more minerally than
either California or New Zealand versions. I would steer away from
a Poully Fume unless it was recommended
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| Bouillabaisse |
alt.food.wine ( Lester J) If
you're talking an authentic Provençal bouillabaisse, you need wine
with strength and structure to handle the strong flavours of the
dish, but the wine should also refresh the palate. When enjoying
such food in southern France I've found that Bandol rosés from
Château de Pibarnon and Domaine Tempier have worked well. With
bouillabaisse, the dish is the thing, and the wine is merely an
accompaniment. Lots of Bandol rosé is my suggestion to help create
the festive mood the dish deserves.
alt.food.wine ( Chuck ) While
I strongly support the concept of 'to each his or her own', I cannot
believe the recommendations for heavy red wines to be served with
this quintessential seafood soup. In any event, in Marseille the
wine for Bouillabaisse is Cassis, a white wine from the area east
of Marseille and a perfect match. For those who must have a red,
the earlier recommendation of a Bandol Rose was a good one. Have
a heavy red if you must but expect it to overwhelm the delicate
plain fish soup and the second course of the fish from the soup.
alt.food.wine ( Charles )With
Bouillabaisse, either Cassis "Domaine du Paternel" or Chateau Thuerry
blanc.
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| Sushi |
Howard B. writes .. Chinese
Food/Sushi: Foods heavy in Soy sauce, x.o. sauce. Nebbiolo goes
great, even with if the course is seafood. I was reading an article
by Robert Parker and he mentioned that he is surprised every time
about how well this grape works with chinese food. He attributed
the soy sauce or x.o. sauce. I wasn't sure and tried it, and he
was right! I would rather have red anyway so it was a great change
from the Reislings I normally have with Chinese food. I then tried
sushi with a Barolo and it was great as well.
Wine: I had the 1996 Pio Cesare Barolo Ornato with the sushi and
a 1997 Giacosa Barolo with chinese food and they both were great.
But I would think that any decent Barolo or Barbaresco would do.
Bill B. writes .. Glenora Brut(NY
State sparkler)
alt.food.wine ( James ) .. A
few years ago I was asked by a sushi chef to match his sushi with
wine. We must have tried 25 different 'wine flavors', but the only
perfect match was sushi with a 'classic' (off-dry) MOSEL RIESLING
KABINETT. No other wine/sushi combination really worked.
alt.food.wine ( Jeff ) .. The
only wine I've found to stand up to sushi + wasabi + soy sauce
+ ginger is a good strong, young Alsace Gewurz, preferably Zind
Humbrecht!!!. Yummy!!
alt.food.wine ( Christopher R.) .. Both
Alsace whites depending on your preference: Either a crisp minerally
Reisling: try Albert Zielgler (Orschwihr, Alsace), or if you are
strong on the pickles, ginger and wasabi: try the incredible Gewurtztramminer
from Pierre-Paul Zink (Pfaffenheim, Alsace).
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| Catfish |
Jean R. writes ... I will suggest
a "Vouvray". It's a wine from the Loire Valley in France.It's made
from Chenin Blanc, a grape variety not very well known. You can
find it anywhere in the States. It cost less than $10, typically
around $7. I tried it several times with catfish and it goes well.
Jack K. writes ...It depends
on how you are preparing it. If you're having Cajun-styled catfish
I would recommend a Chianti Classico.
John M says .. I would be
inclined to suggest an Australian Marsanne (e.g. Chateau Tahbilk)...
a great accompaniment
Peter P says .. Vina Alcorta
1993 Campo viejo ~ 8 $
John M. says ..I would be
inclined to suggest an Australian Marsanne (e.g. Chateau Tahbilk)...
a great accompaniment
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| Crawfish Etouffe |
Susan R. ... Last
time I had crawfish etouffe I had it with a big Zinfandel.
It worked. Sangiovese would probably work, too.
James D.... I think that a
very cold Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc would be perfect. I guess
it really depends on how hot you make your etoufee. Mine are pretty
hot and I would not even think about a red wine. I think you want
something steely to cut through the sauce but also something to
put out the fire, and that is why I would serve it very cold.
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| Fish & Chips |
Duncan J. says .. Have you
ever tried Champagne with Fish 'n' Chips? Mmmmm......delish! |
| Lobster and Scallops |
alt.food.wine ... I suggest
something with a little more structure such as a Viognier or an
Alsacian Riesling. The Viognier will offer a spicy character that
will work wonders for the grilled flavors of these delicate seafoods.
The Riesling will offer more body and roundness than the Sauvignon
Blanc.
alt.food.wine ... Try a good
Meursault.
alt.food.wine ... I would
recommend a good arneis--ceretto, giacosa, marsaglia are all fine
producers.
Alan ... it depends upon
the sauce...I am a lobster purist, with lemon wedges and drawn
butter as the only accompaniments. In my case I prefer a Sauvignon
Blanc, of the more herbal style (New Zealand or Oregon/Washington),
in other words a wine that will not be intimidated by melted butter.
A dry Alsatian Gewurz would be great too.
Joker ... I recently had roast
lobster with julienned veggies at a restaurant party and they served
a delicious Sauternes with it (no, not Yquem, sigh...). It was
pure decadence!!!
Ron ... The last time we had
Maine Lobster was a few months ago (too cold here now - wouldn't
feel right). We had a Vouvray and it was a wonderful combination.
The wine was not sweet and not dry - hard to describe. But it worked
very well with the sweet meat and salty butter. Also had steamers,
corn on the cob, and fresh baguette. Not many Vouvrays in the stores
(ours was from our trip to France), but I do see a bottle or two
in the $9 to $15 range. An alternative would be a Cal. Chenin Blanc
(same grape).
Jeff ... I like Chablis with
lobster, mainly because I don't like sweet wines. The Muscadet
that everyone raves about with shellfish just doesn't do it for
me
Will ... Dry Creek dry chenin
blanc is almost completely dry, and what little sweetness is there
isn't too obtrusive - probably good fruit. Muscadets tend to be
quite dry and do go great with shellfish, although not quite as
nicely as a good Sancerres - Muscadets are more reasonable, though.
I'm not fond of oaky chardonnnays, but lobster with a buttery sauce
is one of the few foods they work OK with. There are also a lot
of very dry, unoaked French chardonnays in addition to Chablis
that also go great with seafoods - a Pouilly-Fuisse, for example,
for around $15, or even more reasonably a Macon-Villages for around
$10 - both excellent with seafood. Also hard to go wrong with a
good sauvignon blanc such as a Pouilly-Fume or, again, a Sancerres.
Climbsrock ... If you can
find one, Austrian riesling is amazing with lobster. Very dry wines
with intense mineral flavors. Very much like GC Chablis. Look for
Prager, Pichler, Hirtzberger, Knoll, or Weingaertner
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| Dutch shrimps with a cocktail sauce |
Mark H ..For the shrimps I'd
like a rich CA chardonnay, like Rombauer 97
Dale W. I'd go for a non-oaky
California (or NZ) Sauv Blanc or a Sancerre with the shrimp, but
reality is a big dose of cocktail sauce (assuming you mean a traditional
catsup/horseradish) is going to kill almost any white wine.
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| Light fish sauteed in butter |
Art & Betsy ... White
Burgundy or CA Chardonnay
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| Monkfish in a creme fraiche sauce |
Marc P. .. I had monkfish
earlier this week, matched quite well with two 96' Chablis. Quite
good
Tom H. .. A good viognier
(e.g., Pride, Arrowood, Kunde, Eberle) or the French version, a
Condrieu. I don't know which Condrieu to recommend, but I'm sure
your wine merchant or others here could help you. Flavors of viognier
run from white flowers to honeysuckle, light peach to heavy apricot
and even orange peel. It's generally a very "yummy" wine.
Lamb. .. I'd go for a fullish
Chard, probably not Chablis but New World (Aussie, probably).
G .. Monkfish tails are a
big deal in Venice, so why not serve something from the Veneto,
like a Tocai or something. Of course in Venice you wouldn't get
the creme fraiche sauce, or any other kind of sauce. That might
make a difference.
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| BEEF |
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| tenderloin of vealthat is stuffed with
spinach and riccotta cheese and the sauce is flavored with black
truffles. |
alt.food.wine ( Ian H. ) .. Quite
a number of people like an Alsace white - Pinot Gris, for example
- with it. Otherwise, I'd look for something lighter. What I sometimes
use veal for is to accompany a red Bordeaux that's beginning to
fade with age.
alt.food.wine ( Chuck W. ) .. I'd
think more in terms of Burgundy, especially from Beaune.
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| Carpaccio of beef with pesto |
alt.food.wine - A Dolcetto
or Barbera d'Asti will go very well with the carpaccio
maybe an Italian Pino Grigio or even a Vernaccia.
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| Chateaubriand |
George C. .. Chateaubriand
and a good hearty Bourdeaux. A true slice of heaven. |
| Florentine Steak |
Joe says .. Florentine steak
and Chianti Classico Riserva. Yum. |
| Liver |
Art & Betsy ...At a recent dinner
we ordered sauteed veal liver and decided to let the chef pick the
wine ... he chose a rhone .. Ch. Beaucastel and it was a perfect
match |
| veal piccata |
Art & Betsy ... Sauvignon Blanc
( especially a New Zealand one ) or Blanc Meritage |
| Stir Fried Beef & Veggies |
Art & Betsy ... Sauvignon Blanc |
| Steak au poivre vert |
Glenn S. writes .. Reine Pedauque
- Aloxe-Croton (red burgundy) - The tangy green peppercorns you purchase
canned (in salt water or vinegar) or Freeze-dried, will distinguish
this dish. ( I prefer the ones in saltwater )
Sauté your choice of steak. ( filet for me ) When Meat is cooked, add to
the pan 6 tablespoons brandy and set aflame, Shaking pan until flame dies.
Transfer meat to a serving dish and keep warm.
To the pan add 1/4 to 1/2 cup minced shallots and stir on high heat for2
or 3 minutes, or just until soft.
Measure 1 or 2 tablespoons canned or freeze-dried green peppercorns in to
a strainer: quickly rinse in cold water and drain.
Add green peppercorns to the pan along with 3/4 cup whipping cream or creme
fraiche, 1 tablespoon Dijon mustard, and 1/2 teaspoon tarragon leaves. Boil
on high heat for 3 to 4 minutes, stirring, until shiny bubbles from (drain
any accumulated stake juices in to cream, also). Pour sauce over the meat.
If steak is a flank, thinly slice at an angle across grain before topping
with sauce. Makes 4 to 6 servings. |
| Lamb |
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| Lamb, Leg of |
Michael H. writes .. Leg of
Lamb - marinate in as much good balsamic vinegar as your budget
can afford for as long as you can stand it (I like a 2-3 day soak).
Roast or grill after studding with garlic and whatever herbs you
like.
Best wines I have enjoyed with Lamb are Barolo and Brunello di
Montalcino. If you're going to curry the lamb, like another recipe
did, I'd try an Alsatian Gewurztraminer.
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| Lamb, Roast |
Art & Betsy ...We enjoy either
the cleansing tannins of a Cab with lamb or we go with a Spanish
Ribero such as Alion or Vega Sicilia |
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Brian C says .. Leg of lamb,
roast rare. Sliced and sauced with a mix of skimmed pan juices and
Barolo thickened with a bit of veal demiglace, and served with the
Barolo, of course. |
| Lamb, w/curry |
Joe G. writes Hmm. In the matter
or lamb, a cabernet would seem ideal...BUT, excatly how spicy will
the curry be? If only a little, the the cab might be the way to go.
Otherwise, consider a Zinfandel. |
| PORK |
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| cassoulet. In this case cassoulet is
a one-dish preparation consisting of white beans, garlic, carrots,
onions, shallots, salt pork, pork, lamb, sausage, and duck, with
a small amount of tomato sauce. |
alt.food.wine ( Chuck W. ) Hugh
Johnson (Pocket Wine Book 2000) recommends Beaujolais Cru or a
young red Navarra, or a S.W. France red (Corbieres, Fitouu etc.)
or a Shiraz.
Ian Hoare We discussed this
about 6 months ago on a french language food/drink echo, and the
consensus there was for a youngish quite rough red. I think it
would be a real waste to serve a good Bordeaux with a Cassoulet.
I.m afraid I don't know these four by taste, but I suspect they
might do.
alt.food.wine ( Frank D.) I
like the idea of a "Big Rhone" or some kind of Syrah with Cassoulet.
The flavor is -big- and earthy. The idea of a good Bordeaux is
interesting and might actually work but I kind of don't like it
because of the mismatch between the elegance of Bordeaux and the
rich earthy stew of the South. On the other hand, a really big
California wine might fit wonderfully. There are some really delicious
California Syrah's -- like the one from Truchard -- that would
be really good. And your suggestion of Etude also could work well.
Something you didn't mention -- the Australians are very fond of
their "Shiraz" and that could also be a match for a hearty Cassoulet.
alt.food.wine ( Pedro D. )Perfect.
Either a Gigondas or a Cornas are the right match, for my palate.
Others on the thread seem to go with much lighter style reds, but
cassoulet is actually a very rich and full flavored dish, and I'd
think it would overpower even the best Beaujolais.
alt.food.wine ( Paul J.)Wall
Street Journal wine writers have recommend a young sauvignon blanc.
Other wine writers have recommended a Syrah. One suggests that
the wine should have what the French call "rotie" or roasted flavor
from the Rhone.
alt.food.wine ( Bill B. )Ideal
is a Cahors - I recommend Chateau Eugenie if you can find it (they
have their own web site). Of your own wines the Gigondas will be
best as will the Coudelet de Beaucastel. Don't use the Bordeaux
- the flavours of cassoulet will overwhelm them.
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| Pork tenderloin with Montrachet goat cheese,
basil oil, on top of smoked Roma tomato |
alt.food.wine ( Michael T.)I
think you should be aware that if there is a problem with fresh
tomatoes and wine, there is certainly a lot of leeway for tomato
sauces and smoked or dried tomatoes. The problem with fresh tomatoes
is all that watery acid that disappears when you dry the fruit
or preserve it in a sauce. Pasta with tomato sauce goes very well
with grenache, sangiovese, syrah or even zinfandel based wines.
60 million italians can't be wrong! Mind you, it must be a well
prepared sauce, smooth, stewed long enough to erase the sourness
of the raw ingredient, rich with olive oil and subtly spiced. If
you don't give the sauce the time it deserves, it will taste metallic
and kill your wine. In the same way, dried or smoked tomatoes will
probably fare well with the same type of wines, let's say a Cote
du Rhone. The pork and goat's cheese complicate things of course,
probaly requiring a shift towards the stronger reds of the Mediterranean
or even Australia.
alt.food.wine ( Will B. ) As
has been noted, tomato need not be a problem if handled right.
I think a good Chianti would work very well with that meal. BTW,
I don't think of a '95 Oregon pinot as all that young. And, not
to be all CA chauvinist, but I have yet to taste anything worldshaking
in Oregon pinots, and I've tried quite a few. CA on the other hand
comes up with some quite awesome pinot noirs. However, I wouldn't
choose pinot noir for that meal. Aside from Chianti (and sangiovese),
I'd consider a good Cote du Rhone or CA Rhone red blend, or a Rioja
Reserva, or even a good CA zin. I've had great luck pairing all
of these with good marinara-type sauces (and of course lacing the
sauce quite liberally with the wine (or a lesser, similar wine),
early on in the cooking process).
alt.food.wine ( Frank D. ) Pork
loin is wonderful with Tuscan wines. A really good Chianti would
work but what occurred to me is perhaps a Supertuscan, maybe with
Sangiovese/Cabernet. I particularly like Avignonesi Grifi or Montevertine's
Pergole Torte. It's hard to know what you'll find available in
your area, but if you have a good wine shop ask what's good from
Tuscany and they ought to have something. The Tuscan idea seems
especially appropriate with the recipe you are using.
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| Barbecued Baby Back Ribs seved with Baked
Sweet Potatoes |
alt.food.wine ( Tony P. )... Zinfandel
(a Ravenswood or a Cline)
Art & Betsy .. we
just had this and served a Spanish red ( Alion '91 ) .. we've tried
zins in the past and found them to be a bit too full for our taste.
alt.food.wine ( Arno )...Vino
Nobile di Montepilciano from a good producer. I can recommand Raspanti
'88 or '90
alt.food.wine ... For the
main course, a lot depends upon the composition of the sauce. I'm
not a great Ravenswood fan, but it would certainly be a good match
for most sauces. If the BBQ is more jerk style, not so sweet, I
might recommend a Vouvray. (This is assuming that the ribs are
pork, if they are beef, ignore the white wine suggestion.)
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| Roast Pork |
Rich W. writes ... I
would like to suggest an often overlooked
companion to sweet roast pork, how about a good Rheingau Riesling;
Spatlase or Auslase, after it's been in the bottle for a few
years! |
| Roast Pork Tenderloin with sun-dried cherry
sauce |
alt.food.wine ... The sun
dried cherry sauce would make me want to serve a domestic pinot
noir. It should be fairly full bodied. Suggest Babcock from Santa
Ynez or one of the wines from the Russian River. My personal favorite
is '96 Robert Mueller Cellars Pearlesence but it is limited and
will probably have to be purchased from the winery. Another great
wine is the '95 Marimar Torres but it is difficult to find and
the '96 has had mixed reviews. Avoid the light candied fruit PNs.
alt.food.wine ... If you can
find french wines near your place my suggestion would be:Saumur-Champigny
(serving temp.18°C) or Costières red (serving temp.17°C)
alt.food.wine ... A light,
fruit, smoky red. Light to balance the pork, lightly smoky to balance
the roast and red to find complimentary cherry flavours. A lightly
barrel aged Spanna de Piedmont would be my pick. Valanna makes
a good one, but watch out for consistency problems (I've heard
tale of some bottling issue with them). Its a simple, low cost
but tasty wine with good complexity and a nice finish.
alt.food.wine ... I've made
that tenderloin with an almond - parmesan crust and the cherry
sauce...I always served a Meritage or Merlot with it...That was
a John Ash recipe I got it from a Fetzer bottle tag!
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| Pork, BBQ'd |
JR says ..Zin and barbecued
pork. Barbecued sirloin is okay too, but big thick pork steaks was
great. A young easy to find one is 1996 Rabbit Ridge Sonoma County.
The 95 is good too. Tried a 95 Mondavi Napa and it wasn't ready yet.
Tannins were still to harsh, though they softened some after about
an hour. Will try again in 2000. Got some Frog's Leap, Alderbrook
OVOC and a couple other 95s waiting for a few years. |
| Jambalaya |
Amanda .. We found a perfect
inexpensive wine for jambalaya quite by accident. Try Turning Leaf's
Red Zinfandel, there's no bitter aftertaste, and it's not so strong
as to overpower the meal!
Jason .. We've had good luck
with Aussie Shiraz. Try Rosemount Diamond Label or Leasingham Clare
Valley. Definitely go for something brash with a lot of fruit.
The earthier ones just die with jambalaya.
Jack .. Just had a 1996 Rabbit
Ridge Sangiovese with it the other day and the combo worked nicely.
Dan .. BIG, spicy Red Zin....or
an equally big Shiraz.
alt.food.wine ... Wine with
Jambalaya? Easy = ZINFANDEL, Big, unabashed, spicy just like the
Jambalaya.
alt.food.wine ... Beside
various Sangiovese, I like it w/ a good strong Riesling. For an
unusal combo, try a good mild but fraqent Japanese sake serve chill
!
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| Ham |
Art & Betsy ... Our two favorite
wines with ham are either a nice dry Rose ( we love Bruno Clair's
rose since it is 100% pinot based ) or a nice Riesling. Either of
these nicely offsets the saltiness of the ham. |
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| Chicken, Roast |
SD Writes .. Anything with
Dijon mustard and chardonnay. For example, when doing roast chicken,
rub the bird with a tablespoon of Dijon mustard. |
| Chicken, curried / Indian
food |
alt.food.wine ... Dr. Kane One
of my favorite challenges is to pair wine with Indian Food. Most
recently I had made from scratch chicken curry made with with smoked
chicken served over jasmine rice. I paired it with a Gewurztraminer.
Wow! what a kick. The hot spicey curry was a great match for the
equally spicey, ginger and clove laden Gewurzt. The wine was only
slightly off-dry but had enough fruit sweeteness to quench the heat.
Raj P Writes .. New world
style Unoaked or lightly oaked whites such as Pinot Gris, Riesling,
Viognier,
Sav' Blanc. Reds need to be fruity with low tannin such as
Grenache, Beaujolais, Pinot Noir, Merlot, Zinfandel, Barbera.
A heavy Shiraz will work well with some red meat indian dishes.
Old world wines generally don't work with Indian food with
the exception of some Alsace and Italy. I personally disagree
about Gewurztraminer's suitability with Indian food.
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| Duck, Smoked |
alt.food.wine ... Roland M. I
would recommend either a light Pinot Noir or Burgundy (perhaps
the Leroy Bourgogne) if you like reds or an Alsatian Riesling
(a Zind Humbrecht possibly) if your prefer whites.
alt.food.wine ...Yes, upfront
Pinot Noir comes to mind first. Red berry, a bit spicy goes pretty
well with smoke duck. A dry Gewurtz would work as well as a Riesling.
alt.food.wine ..Rob A. Would
recommend a good Alasatian Riesling. An excellent one I had recently
was produced by Albert Boxler and carried the designation Summerfield
Vineyard. I had it a restaurant in NY with a good wine list, so
I can't speak for its retail availability.
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| Goose |
alt.food.wine ... Dale W. Obviously
sauces, stuffings, and accompaniments can make a big difference.
As can age of bird and origin. But as general guidelines I'd say
for a younger, farm-raised goose I'd first think of a rather big
chard - CA or a white burgundy. An older wild goose would make
me check the cellar for a red with a bit of zest & character- maybe
a syrah like a Crozes-Hermitage, Hermitage, or Aussie Shiraz. Maybe
if you can tell us where you're gtting your bird, and what you're
serving with it, some of the more experienced folks here could
offer you better suggestions.
alt.food.wine .. Michael D. Riesling
Auslese from the Rheingau or Rheinhessen. You need the acid to
balance the fat in the goose. Choose a good one! I would stay away
from the reds, good for Duck but goose, I feel, requires a different
approach. Or if you prefer drier, Alsacian Rieslings or Tokay.
Serve the goose a l'Alsacienne (Choucroute) and you exerience manna
from heaven!
alt.food.wine .. Ken B. My
preference would be a big red--perhaps a zinfandel or a syrah/shiraz.
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| Goose w/fruity stuffing |
alt.food.wine .. Bill S. Zin,
big Burg, cabs, merlots, superTuscans....... In other words, just
about anything that takes your fancy.
alt.food.wine .. Steve M. Assuming
a simple goose or chicken gravy - A merlot, perhaps from Chile.
alt.food.wine .. Caspar I
wouldn't drink red at all. It is not a game bird, therefore hasn't
got a massive amount of flavour, plus it is quite fatty. I would
drink a top-drawer 96 white Burgundy. I have just tasted the 96
Puligny Clavoillons from Domaine Leflaive and it is humming. Failing
that, what about one of the full-flavoured champagnes? Bollinger
90? Krug 73? Comtes de Champagne 76? They'll all do OK.
alt.food.wine .. Andy P. You
could try a mature German Spatlese or Auslese Riesling ( Probably
a Rheingau would be better than a Moselle- usually more full bodied.)
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| Turkey |
Wine writes .. Roast turkey,
or duck, with Leasingham's Classic Clare 1994 Sparkling Shiraz,
from South Australia - gorgeous
alt.food.wine ... David J.. IMHO
there is nothing better with roast turkey than Sparkling Red. As
far as I know this is largely an Australian Invention. Yes you
surve it chilled, but perhaps not too cold. Warning open in kitchen
and not over the good carpets. Once in a while they go everywhere
and I mean everywhere when opening. A wine where great glassware
makes a huge difference, especially with older wines, I am a fan
of the riedel prestige cuvee for these wines.
alt.food.wine ... Susan R .. I
agree with the Zin recommendation, but then I like red wine with
almost everything. Many people also enjoy Pinot Noir with roast
turkey; for white wine fans try a good off-dry Gewurz or Malvasia
Bianca. Beaujolais is often recommended, but I find I don't enjoy
it at all with the usual turkey companions.
alt.food.wine ... Bob V .. I've
enjoyed the following with the "standard" sort of roast Turkey
Ruby Port (Fonseca Bin 27) Pinot Noir Gewurztraminer White Burgundy
Merlot Champagne Riesling
John M writes .. (whites)
Reisling, Gewürztraminer ( Reds )Pinot noir Light Rhone style (Chatue
de Cornielus) Zin.
alt.food.wine ... John M .. Don't
forget to consider the fixin's, especially if they include such
traditional favorites as cranberry and sweet potatoes. These sweet
dishes can clash seriously with drier wines, so consider either
a (German) Riesling or Gewurtztraminer with a touch of sweetness
or, for reds, a ripe, all-American Zinfandel.
alt.food.wine ... Wump .. The
key to pairing food and wine is to match the predominate flavors
- usually the sauce. Thanksgiving dinner is always a problem -
trying to match a wine with not only turkey, but also yams, cranberry
sauce, etc. Recommend a big, full-flavored chardonnay, a chenin
blanc, or a medium-bodied zinfandel - all three should be able
to stand up to all of those flavors.
alt.food.wine ... Dr. T .. When
friends ask me that, I always ask them in return what else they're
serving, because turkey can really go with many types of wine.
My suggestions (your tastes may vary): Big family dinner, with
ham as well as turkey: Rhone-style rose (Taval area, or Bonny Doon)
Turkey with lots of gravy, savory stuffing, etc.: Syrah/shirraz
based wines, although some prefer pinot noir Turkey with oyster
stuffing & seafood side dishes: Viognier (unoaked, so not Rabbit
Ridge) or gewurztraminer Turkey with lots of veggie dishes: Chablis
or other lightly oaked chardonnays
alt.food.wine ... Dr. Kane You
can adapt turkey to just about any style of wine with the dressing
and sauces used. I suggest matching the style of the food with
wine from the the country or region of origin. For example: Lemon
and Herbs (Basel, Oregano, Rosemany) - Italian Pinot Griggio Dressing
with chestnuts and a brown reduction sauce - French Burgundy (lighter
vintage) or Pinot Noir from Oregon Deep fried turkey with cajun
spices (very popular in Gulf Coast) - Texas Riesling or Gewurztraminer
Conventional turkey with dressing and cranberry sauce - A good
Australian Chardonnay.
alt.food.wine ... Last November
we had a light Pinot and Reisling with the turkey both were enjoyed
by all.
alt.food.wine ... I had a
Napa Ridge pinot noir at our last thanksgiving. For price vs performance
you can't find a better pinot noir. Smells like cherries and really
goes well with the bird. It won't last long so don't cellar it.
If you by a case at safeway you get a10% discount. Great daily
wine. Cost about 8 dollars when I bought it, prices have gone up
no more than a buck since then.
alt.food.wine ... Last thanksgiving
we had a '95 Jordan Chardonnay that was perfect with the bird.
We use a spice rub on the turkey and cook it on the BBQ so it's
spicy and smokey, and the spice of the J complemented it perfectly.
Enjoy
alt.food.wine ... We took
the advice of a few people and had a nice pinot (Marimar Torres).
The wine actually complemented the turkey well, better than the
Beaujolais I normally have with it.
alt.food.wine ... An off-dry
Gewurztramminer, either from Alsace or from upstate New York, would
also be very good. You might also consider an off-dry chenin blanc.
I've become a real fan of Vouvray's, their mineraled, fruity sweetness
is a great complement for pork, spicy food, and game birds.
alt.food.wine ( John ) ... Try
an Australian Sparkling Shiraz (sometimes known as Sparkling Burgundy).
Just terriffic with roast turkey.
alt.food.wine ( Dr. T.) ...A
Taval is always a good choice, but some from California might be:
Bonny Doon (Rhone-style) Zaca Mesa (the tartness might contrast
nicely with the meal) Pedroncelli Zinfandel Rose (not their white
Zin, this is sweet enough! -- still, this was much better than
the Shooting Star, which tasted to me more like watered down Red
Zin) McDowell Grenache rose (Rhone-style, although I personally
prefer Bonny Doon) and Korbel also does an interesting sparkling
red that might go well with Thanksgiving
alt.food.wine ( Chris A.) ...As
one who "Weberizes" a turkey pretty much yearly at the request
of the diners, I've run across something that alway seems to work.
Pieroth (of all outfits) sells an off-dry red Ausbruch from Hungary
that has this wonderful cedary nose that seems to work very well
with smoky, BBQ'd foods. I plan to use it again this year.
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| Fois Gras |
alt.food.wine .. Bill S.... If
it is any good, I would serve it on its own, ie with toast. I find
that if it isn't fresh, warranting a great sauternes, that a modest
Monbazillac or St. Croix du Mont works really well.
Art & Betsy .. Sauterne
or Gewurztraminer
alt.food.wine .. Bill S....Foie
gras when eaten cold on toast is generally an appetizer (hors d'oeuvre).
We generally drink a special sweet wine such as an Alsatian Gewurztraminer
Vendanges Tardives (or SGN) or a fine and reasonably old (read
rich) Southwest wine such as a Sauternes, Monbazillac, etc. with
it.
Foie gras is also served "sautéed" on top of a piece of steak
as part of the main course. It can also be sautéed and served hot,
on it's own, as part of the main course as well. If it is on it's
own we tend to drink a sweet white with it... if it's on steak
or on salad a rich, woodly red (St. Emilion, Pomerol, ...) goes
wonderfully.
alt.food.wine .. John S.... I
usually serve it on toast or crackers with Champagne - my personal
favorite is Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin. Perhaps an unimaginative
pairing, but it seems like a perfect match to me.... A nice, dry,
lightly-oaked Chardonnay could work just as well.
alt.food.wine .. Steven Z.... With
Fois gras, the classic is Sauternes. But I once served the 1993
Horton Viognier with Fois gras and grapes, and it was the hit of
the night. On that night, there were 5 other excellent high end
wines that lost because the match was so perfect. Including a Kistler "Mcrea".
alt.food.wine .. Robert B ... As
previously noted Sauternes is the classic wine for foie gras. IMHO,
the foie gras doesn't need all the sweetness of a great Sauternes,
but I do prefer a sweet white wine with Sauternes. (Your taste
may run to a rich red and that's enjoyable to me too.) In Gascony
they're liable to drink a sweet Jurancon. A good Muscat from Beaumes-de-venise
or one of the Appellations in the Languedoc-Rousillon area are
fine. My personal favorite is a sweet wine from the Loire. Something
like a good Coteaux-du-Layon. These are not cheap either, although
you may find one for less than a good Sauternes. They have a lot
of character in addition to the sweetness. Some of them have a
real mineral taste and quite a bit of acid. A lot of them are not
quite sweet enough for dessert, but most will do very well with
foie gras. Unfortuantely these wines are just making a comeback
and may not have very wide distribution. Although they're touted
an some of NYC's best restaurant wine lists, I walked into what
I have thought of as the most established wine store in NY and
drew a blank when I asked for a Coteaux du Layon.
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| Pasta |
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| pasta (lassagna, macaroni, spaghetti etc |
Arno W ... A verry good compagnon
of pasta (lassagna, macaroni, spaghetti etc) is Orvieto Classico.
It is a white wine out of the region Umbrie. Mostently they are
owned by Tuscan Winerys. Try the orvieto classico from Pietracollata.
1996,and 1997 are verry good. price ca $ 7 An other good recomandation
is Refosco out of the hils of Friuli (arround Gorizia)
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| Pasta (tomato-based) |
SD writes .. Pasta (tomato-based)
and red chianti (Sangiovese) |
| Pizza |
Shaun writes ..Pizza with Champagne
is a great combination. Don't be alarmed if the wine costs five times
what the dinner does. |
| Salads/Veggies |
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| stuffed artichokes in a southern french
style |
Mike C. writes .. dry french
rose such as tavell
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| Ceasar Salad |
Dana writes .. Horton Vineyards
(Virginia) Marsanne
Daniel R writes .. Even though
Caesar salad was first invented in the United States, French wines
are most appropriate with it. Consider especially a dry or semi-dry
Gewurtztraminer (ideally from Hugel or Trimbach), or if you lean
to reds, perhaps the more "serious" wines of Beajolais (Chiroubles,
Fleurie and Chenas are good candidates).
One of the best matches I had with this salad was a sparkling
dry Fendant while dining at the restaurant at Parc Mon Repos in
Geneva. Alas, like most Swiss wines, Fendant does not travel well.
Frederick L writes ... well,
it all depends on what the salad is made of and the sort of dressing
you are planning to do. I don't know this receipe but for composite
salads the Sylvaner (Alsace), "Coteaux d'Aix" (Provence Rosé), "Cotes
du Rhone" red,usually marry quite well.
Art & Betsy write ..We've found
( for our tastes at least ) that a chard will wash out under the
strident tastes of a ceasar dressing. We've used reislings nicely
for this type of combo in the past |
| Morrell Mushrooms |
Mark W. writes .. Sanford
Pinot Noir 1996 was the choice and it matched beautifully with ..
The recipe is simplicity itself.Split the morrels down the
middle,usually a neccessary precaution. Wash thoroughly and let
soak in salt water for as long as you can keep your hands off
them.Heat a good quality oil we used soy oil,to about 350. Prepare
a light egg wash and a light breading, Corn flake crumbs ground
to a consistency not a powder but finer than they come in the
box is good. Bread the mushrooms to the desired thickness. Drop
in the fryer and serve with various dips. We stuffed our larger
ones with a good quality camenbert,brie would work also but be
careful as the subtle flavours are easy to overpower. Cheers
Mark |
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| General Cheese Comments |
alt.food.wine ... For
a Chardonnay, I'd recommend anything from a Jarlsberg to a
Brie. Stay away from sharp cheeses (like cheddars) and go to
mild cheeses. Actual matches can vary with the style of Chardonnay
but a general rule of thumb would be to match cheeses with
higher fat content (Brie, St. Andre, etc) with Chardonnays
that have higher levels of malolactic fermentation (those with
a 'buttery' nose and flavor) and firmer mild cheeses (Jarlsberg
and others) with Chardonnays that have either not gone through
malolactic fermentation or those that have only partial malolactic.
alt.food.wine ... Vouvray
is a little sweeter or more of a desert style than chardonnay.
with sweeter wines you want something with more acid. I like a
good goat cheese, havarti, brie, try small amounts of different
cheeses and see which ones you prefer. Try cheese from a real cheese
shop and not the plastic wrapped stuff
alt.food.wine ... Follow your
taste buds - but remeber the Italian rule of thumb - if it is a
hard cheese, such as parmigiano or asiago, or a very rich cheese
such as stilton or cheddar, or a very salty/mouldy cheese such
as roquefort, stay with really great reds - bordeaux, burgundy,
barolo. Of course, the British will always drink port with almost
any cheese. Try sauternes with brie, camembert, etc. Try it all
out. Some of the lighter white dessert wines from US such as muscat
canelli go well with lighter cheeses that go with fruit.
alt.food.wine ... By the way,
my most memorable experience was a glass of 71 Mouton Rothschild
with an assortment of Parmigiano, Camembert, and Gouda....heavenly!
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| Blue Cheese |
alt.food.wine ..Blue cheese
and shiraz, very high tannins required.
alt.food.wine ... Try Roquefort
with a Maury or Banyuls. Much like a Stilton and port. In Perpignan,
on a tasting menu, I had a blue cheese served in bowl with desert
wine. I don't remember if it was Roquefort or if the wine was Banyuls
or Maury.
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| Goat cheese |
alt.food.wine ... I happen
to have tried the B&G Vouvray yesterday in a tasting of "Summer Wines" with
a wine writer. We tried several wines with a variety of cheeses and
other foods. The best cheese match for the Vouvray was with a nice
goat cheese on French bread. This was because both the wine and cheese
were high in acid and were a complementary pairing. Since Vouvray
is 100% Chenin Blanc, this match would also work with Chenin Blancs
as well. Since you are matching against the acid, the pairing should
work with wines over a broad range of sweetness (or lack thereof). |
| Camembert |
Art & Betsy .. Merlot
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| Desserts |
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| Chocolate |
Wino writes ... Morris Show
Reserve Tokay (or perhaps the Muscat), from Rutherglen in Victoria,
Australia - magnificent, rich and deep - perfect for a serious
chocolate session
Willem R. writes ... Banyuls,
a fortified wine from the south of France, made from red grenache
grapes
alt.food.wine ...Orange Muscat,
or an Irish Stout Beer
alt.food.wine ... Port --
vintage Port goes great with chocolate desserts like chocolate
decadence. Especially good with raspberries and chocolate.
alt.food.wine Bill L.... The
greatest pairing I have ever tasted was chocolate and J. Fritz
Late Harvest Zinfandel. It is absolute magic. Try a port.
alt.food.wine Hillary G.... I
like big zinfandels with chocolate, myself.
alt.food.wine Katheryn O.... A
good Cabernet Sauvignon from California is a good choice. I also
like Pinot Noir with chocolate. If your taste is towards the sweet,
try a late harvest riesling or other dessert wine.
alt.food.wine Mark M.... I
guess I'm in the minority here, but one I'd vote for a good Bordeaux
or Californnia Cab. One of my best memories is of Christmas Eve
in 95 when most of my family was snowed in at my house and we had
a couple of bottles of 82 Les Forts de Latour and several bottlles
(I can't remember how many) of 85 Mondavi Reserve. After a dinner
of grilled tenderloin, potatoes au gratin, saute'ed mushrooms,
etc. I raided my annual gift to my wife of Godiva chocolates and
we finished the above wines with the chocolate. With the wind howling
and snow blowing, we all sat by a roaring fire in the fireplace,
drank the wine and ate chocolate until the early morning hours.
I've never had a more enjoyable combination with chocolate. Brings
a smile to my face even as I type this....especially now in this
sweltering summer!
alt.food.wine Roy G. ... Port,
bittersweet chocolate & walnuts, Yummmm
alt.food.wine James D ... This
may sound strange, but the wine tasting group to which I belong
has found that really big up-front Aussie Shiraz goes really well
with "serious" dark chocolate. The sort of wines I'm talking about
are E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, Ebenezer Shiraz &c. As an alternative
- I remmeber a neck label on a bottle of Quady's Elysium which
had a fantastically rich chocolate cake recipe on it, so presumably
they think that combination would work. I reckon it would just
make the wine taste even more like Fry's Turkish Delight.
alt.food.wine Nelson M. ... I'm
not a big fan of wine with chocolate - good chocolate is so complex
on its own, pairing it with wine is awkward. But a classic wine
for chocolate is a dessert wine known as Maury. It's a French sweet
red wine, not very well known in the States. It tastes a bit like
a light vintage port, but with a somewhat oxidized/raisiny taste
like a sherry. Quite tasty, not terribly expensive ($20 for a good
bottle at my wine shop), and said to be perfect with chocolate.
An Orange Muscat can also be nice.
alt.food.wine Erling M. ... Actually,
I find that some white dessert wines go well with chocolate --
just follow the rule that the wine be sweeter than the dessert
(otherwise it tastes horrible, dry and bitter). I have especially
enjoyed rich chocolate tarts (dark & bitter) with Bonny Doon Muscat
made from Frozen grapes, as well as Australian Noble One (nice
vanilla flavour complements chocolate) or a Lenz Mozer TBA.
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| Chocolate Mousse |
alt.food.wine ( Tony P. ) ... Quady's
Elysium Black Muscat or Brown Brother's Orange Muscat & Flora
Art & Betsy ... a brut rose
champagne
alt.food.wine ( Arno ) ...a
good Vino Santo or a moscato di Pantelleria or (but hard too find
and verry expensive) Picolit out of Friuli
alt.food.wine ... I'd recommend
going with the Quady Black Muscat, or possibly a demi-sec champagne.
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| Pears |
Art & Betsy ...with pears poached
in a light honey/wine sauce .. we love Sauterne .. this is one of
our favorites |
| blueberry cheesecake with lemon curd topping |
alt.food.wine ... I think
a Muscat de Rivesaltes (serving temp.10 °C ) would do fine.
alt.food.wine ... I have found
the "Ice wines" from Washington state to be a very good accompaniment
to cheesecake. They are very sweet and should stand up to the lemon
if you don't use too much.
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| Cheesecake |
alt.food.wine ... Vintage Port & cheesecake.
Yummmmmm. Just last week I had some cheesecake with a Taylor 1991
LBV. $4$ the best Port I have ever had. My celler is full of bottles
that are many times better but many times more expensive than the
$15 I paid for it at Sam's Wholesale Club. |
| Tiramisu |
alt.food.wine .. I ordered
both the Tiramisu and a glass of the aged Tawny. Much to my delight,
the two actually paired quite well! I had been a bit apprehensive,
being uncertain of what the espresso in the dessert would do to the
Tawny...but it worked and was a surprisingly (at least to me) enjoyable
combination. |
| Walnuts .. cake |
alt.food.wine .. Although I
don't consider it as unusual, one of my favorites is English walnuts
with an aged tawny. Not long ago, I had a cake which was frosted
between the layers. The cake itself was not particularly memorable.
However the cake did have broken english walnuts in between the layers
with the frosting. At the time, we were camping, and all I had was
some Noval 40 year aged tawny which we had been sipping earlier.
The effect of the two together reminded me of the experience of walking
into a stream of black light in a bar or an amusement park and all
of a sudden seeing the UV enhanced laundry detergent soap stains
show up on my jeans. ...that is to say.. the walnut flavor would
have been transparent, only adding texture to the cake. However the
effect of the aged tawny brought them to explode on my palette making
this just alright desert into a wonderful experience. |
| Miscellaneous |
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| Salted Nuts |
alt.food.wine - Will .. I've
always enjoyed a super dry Champagne with salted nuts. I think
this combination is a great opener for a dinner party.
alt.food.wine - Robert G. ..Tawny
Port.
alt.food.wine - Try a Ruby
Port, or a decent Tawny. Either should work decently. A Vintage
would be overkill.
alt.food.wine Tim -I'm partial
to a hearty red like a good Red Zin or Cabernet with nuts. Try
for a spicy wine if possible.
alt.food.wine Edwin -The classic
match would be port as many points out. Try an australian tawny.
An amontilado would go well with nuts since it is pretty nutty
itself... If you clean the nuts membrane, which has plenty of tannins
before you eat them, then a big red like zinfandel would work.
I don't know about champagne....
alt.food.wine Brian C. -I
would have a Tawny Port, preferrably from one of the Portuguese
houses, which go for a softer style which works very well with
the salty, nutty flavors your speaking of. Try one of the older
ones from Barros or Rocha -- very nice wines and not too expensive.
If you want to keep it cheap the Presidential Tawny is very good
for the money.
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